March 24, 2021

#002 MTEC Student Podcast weekly meeting, preparing for recording session at Sunset Sound Studios

#002 MTEC Student Podcast weekly meeting, preparing for recording session at Sunset Sound Studios

The MTEC Study Group begins their weekly Friday meeting by quickly recapping their previous meetings to ensure all members were in the know of each other’s projects. The meetings continue by having Tom speak about how he is preparing for his...

The MTEC Study Group begins their weekly Friday meeting by quickly recapping their previous meetings to ensure all members were in the know of each other’s projects. The meetings continue by having Tom speak about how he is preparing for his recording session at Sunset Sound in Los Angeles. Tom Spoke about what he was going to record, how the session was funded, and the importance of being connected with other like minded people. Apart from Tom’s recording project Tom introduced the group to Los Angeles Producer and artist John. John is a former student of the Music Technology program at Stanford University. John is now working with top EDM producers in Los Angeles. Lastly, Tom and John express the importance to have your collaborations workflow.   The MTEC Study Group diverged their conversation to their new podcast editing software Descript. Bruce Tambling discusses the useful tools within the application. Some of these features include simultaneously removing all the Uhs in a recording. Bruce continues to discuss the podcasts being created from previous MTEC Meetings. Bruce explains how Descript is going to speed up his team’s workflow. 


The group continues their meeting and touches on the topic of the importance of these meetings. Bruce and Layla communicate the significance of building a community around the MTEC group. They speak about the importance of having mentors available and being surrounded by talented individuals that can team up and collaborate to create wonderful works of art together. Layla also offers to bring in touring performers and DJ to weekly meetings to help the group learn and interview professionals working in the real world.


Kiki asks about what the new Thursday night MTEC meeting is about. Bruce explains his ideas for the meetings and says he wanted to have a meeting so local students and artists can jam together using a new program using JamKazam. The first meeting didn't go as planned the first time around but Bruce Tambling is optimistic he will get JamKazam working for future meetings. The meeting concludes after Philip Rose and Daniel give a small update on their projects and what their next steps are going to be.

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[00:00:00] Bruce T: Well, let me go ahead and scroll back down just to recap last week. So for those of you who weren't here last week, I kind of just basically said that this is an area that you can go on, click on it, so you can get a review of all the different meetings. This is just a Friday music tech study group meetings, and you can go all the way back to when we started in the beginning of Jan.

And that way you can just go see what you missed or see what you listened to, but you wanted to go back and realize what your dues were and other things like that. So this is all down here. And, uh, yeah. And so for example, last week was 2 19 21, you know, Tyler P was on and we got to talk to him a lot about what he was doing every day and got to ask him some great questions we got.

And then we went through what I think we're going to do today to. Every week, we're going to go through little progress report and that keeps us all who were working on projects kind of honest, and puts a fire in there. Our butts. I know it does for me because I say, oh my gosh, it's almost 12 o'clock I got to get my homework done, that kind of thing.

But you know, during the week we want [00:01:00] people to be working on this stuff. And of course it's all voluntary, but for example, the multi-track library was reported on it's going well, the podcast project with. What's going, we discussed the Tom Farley project and I don't think Tom's on today. I was hoping he was going to be honest, so he could kind of tell us, uh, what's where that is in progress.

But we do know that there's going to be a mic shootout still. Bruce, that's still for March 1st, right? This coming Wednesday. So. I think it's the it's booked on the third. I believe. Let me double check on that. Maybe I'm wrong. Let me, let me go to the calendar here. It's next Wednesday. So I think that is going to be hitting.

So here's the, here's the update on that third? Yep. First of all. Tom Farley is down in Los Angeles, working on a recording project right now. And he's hoping to hop on for a minute during this zoom meeting, just to give a little update, just give a little shout out. So we'll be on the lookout for him whenever he shows up what we'll get them on stage because he's in a recording session.

And then on Wednesday. [00:02:00] We're doing a recording session at Reynolds circle. It's a closed session. We're going to do live streaming for our online students, but we can't have that many people show up. And there's two things on the table. One is a microphone shootout with Tom Farley and the other one is a microphone shootout with Ronnie Beck.

And at the same time, we're going to be collecting some photos and videos and some content for various social media channels and lots of audio Lockton, audio microphones has expressed interest to be involved in this shootout. And we have the people, people that work at Lockton audio we'll be providing microphones and probably being there for the.

So we're kind of leveraging this into a really cool event. And that's the status of that line item. Say that when you Wednesday session, I got to see what a lot in audio is fantastic. And I checked out their website and I really want to listen to their mix. So are they going to bring them all or what are they going to do?[00:03:00] 

Yeah, they're going to bring some of their best microphones and we're going to do a microphone shootout with those two artists. It might even be, it might even be something that, Hey, Layla, do you, do you want to sing? Are you ready for that? I could be ready for that. I do like to sing. Okay. So, so I was just thinking, I was, I was thinking to myself, it might be good to get a female, a female look at, she doesn't really look like that in real life.

I don't think I'm going to be really intimidated if she really looks like that. But anyway, um, she's going to bring her photographer to who makes it look like that. And then anyway, so Layla, if you want to do it, then that would be awesome. And all you gotta do is figure out what you want to sing to. And we've got to get the backing tracks together and it would be awesome to have a little song for you to sing too.

And then you could try some different mix. What do you think? That sounds awesome. I'll start working on that. Okay. So then you can contact me and Al after this [00:04:00] meeting and we can talk about how to prepare for it. Awesome. Awesome. Great idea, Bruce. Cause I think to get those different tambours will be really good to hear on those bikes.

That's one o'clock. All right. Yeah. The, the meeting, the Wednesday meeting always meets, always starts at one o'clock and we'd like to try to end that. In 90 minutes, sometimes it goes a little longer. It's not really a fixed ending, but we're going to start setting up at around 12 o'clock at the latest we'll start setting up Tuesday night, actually.

And then the whole event will probably be from 12 to four. Okay. Very cool. And we're going to wait, we're going to record it. You know, I mean the whole idea is to document it and then have some little soundbites and video clips to share with people. It'll be the same zoom. We are going to let everybody know be way before Wednesday, what the, what the URL is.

Okay, great. [00:05:00] And then I'm assuming audio movers will be used for the audio so that we can all tell the difference for those of us who aren't in person. I certainly hope so. And also we're going to be recording. We're going to recording the, all of the audio locally, professionally into a sound devices, recording device.

So we can play it back later as well. If you happen to be, you know, not available Kiki, you know, you're going to be able to hear it back. That's the whole idea. That will be cool. And then even that have the files. For the idea. That's absolutely the idea. That'd be super, super cool. All right. Thank you so much.

All right. All right. Great. So that's, that was the Tom Farley from, from last week. So hopefully he'll be able to jump on Isabel. Bravo is also on last week and she was talking about her partnership there. Her band's called bittersweet and there we're also working on, on that. So she's interested as well and eventually going into a mic shootout and, and also, uh, get her project to be able to be.

And to be finished. I had homework about the [00:06:00] plug-in folder project. And I can tell you that, that we decided to go ahead and, and tap into our vast library of multitracks, which are fantastic and growing every day. So great work on the multitracks project guys and Bruce adjusted it and Alan Parsons track.

And I did listen to them and I love all our yesterdays. I can show you right now that I downloaded them. It's pretty complex. You know, if you want to take a look, here's the edit window. Right. And you know, it's not, you know, super, super, it's not like a hundred different tracks, but it's also not like eight tracks.

So it's somewhere in between. I think that was a, what do you think, Bruce? I thought it was a good sort of a. For someone like Jeff to kind of mix this because all the drums were nicely recorded and there's a lot of different drum tracks. There's a couple rooms you can see some percussion is here. Well, two was good tar and keys, and then there's lead vocals and backing vocals.

I just wanted to make sure this. Too complex for a [00:07:00] first run for Jeff to a mix so that we can get an idea of how he does it and the plugins that he uses for it. So anyone's feedback welcome. But Bruce, I definitely want to hear from you to see what you thought about this associate. Get out. A good way to approach this would be to offer Jeff three songs so he can choose.

And this is great to be one of them. And the way we want to deliver it for Jeff's consideration is the stereo file. So we want to, we want to have the stereo file. We want to send Jeff like, Hey Jeff, here are three songs. Here's what they sound like. And if you're interested in checking out, We will also send them a link to the zip.

And this is a great one. And actually any style or any song that year. Curious to explore. Kiki would be cool. This, this is certainly one of them. They could all be Alan Parsons. That'd be fine. And by the way, Kiki, can you do me a favor? Can you go back to the spreadsheet and [00:08:00] open up? I want you to open up the notes for this.

Go to the Google doc notes for this song. It's in the go to the music. So open that up for a second and let let's just press pause for a second because go Tom Farley, go Tom Farley, go, Tom Farley. Go. Hey, Tom. Thanks for, uh, thanks for hopping on man. And we have a very small group here today. We were just talking about you with great awe and respect.

So I want you to give us a little update on what you've been doing with your graded. 

[00:08:32] Tom: Hey, so I 

[00:08:33] Bruce T: don't have my webcam with me, so I can't turn on video, unfortunately, but I'm with my friend. John's on say hi. Hey, 

[00:08:39] Tom: what's up guys. John is 

[00:08:40] Bruce T: a great producer in LA. He's an artist himself. So I'm with him right now.

We're looking at some songs that I was just recording with a friend of mine who lives in Sherman Oaks in the valley. And I'm in near Venice. CA was that where we are Santa Monica. And would their 

[00:08:55] Tom: Heights sort of Darrell Heights by the airport? 

[00:08:58] Bruce T: Yeah. Traveling [00:09:00] remotely doing a remote recording thing. It's really cool.

And that's a really good collaboration that we're working on. It's a song that is a friend of mine is going to be singing. Bruce. I sent you that video of her kind of recording some scratch vocals, and we're going to be working on that. So that's what we're doing right now. I've got my recording session at sunset tomorrow 

[00:09:17] Tom: and just hanging 

[00:09:18] Bruce T: out until then.

What's your connection with John and sunset studios? 

[00:09:23] Tom: John? I met 

[00:09:24] Bruce T: at Stanford when he was there for us. He was actually went there for a little bit. The school there at what? Karma? 

[00:09:31] Tom: Yeah, it was in the music technology 

[00:09:33] Bruce T: program there for one year. Oh, awesome. So that, so can you just give us a quick little, I mean, we know karma and John Channing and thank you for reminding us that that program is alive and well.

And I used to go hang out there when I was younger and stuff, tell us what's happening these days. And also if you know any of the opportunities we might want to like, no. 

[00:09:59] Tom: Well, to be honest with you, [00:10:00] I'm not super up on it because I mean, for one, it is kind of a secretive program and it was, I, I only learned about applying to it.

I went to undergrad in Michigan and I heard like rumor of someone. I was like, oh yeah, I have a friend who makes, makes like, works on the amp simulation stuff for logic. And he went to the. Tiny program at Stanford for it. So I, uh, I dropped out about a year ago to move, move out, move down to here to LA.

And so I haven't been like very up on it, but it is interesting. Like John Chowning is still around. He and his wife, they come in and they give talks and obviously he's getting up there, but yeah, they are alive and well, they're moving away from the recording and mixing, however they J. was there mixing instructor for many years.

And then the year that I started, he retired and then. Owen calorie took over for a year and then Nikki, he left. So that whole like recording studio, all that mixing stuff is sort of that they're even considering [00:11:00] disbanding the recording studio itself and doing more spatial sound and all of that stuff, which is very interesting, but it's, it's, that's where my interests are just dead diverse because on a pop producer, dance producer are very much into.

The commercial music industry. 

[00:11:15] Bruce T: So, so what are you doing now, John? What's your focus and what is your position in this project with Tom Farley? 

[00:11:22] Tom: Um, I've been doing the random walk. I've been in LA for a year and a half. And I, I dropped out of Stanford because I got the opportunity to apprentice for a producer named Dallas.

Kay. Who's like a big room EDM artist himself, but he's. More well-known for being you produced like work from home by fifth harmony. So he's been a multi-platinum producer that was like five or six years ago and his opportunities have only increased. So I started working for him and just got really nitty started to get really nitty gritty with like top production vocal production.

So over the last year, obviously it's been, it's been COVID so it's been hard, but [00:12:00] I've been simultaneously working on my own artists project. Which is sort of like a dancey vibey pop project, sort of like Rufus du Sol or zoo or Calvin Harris. And then, yeah, and I, I met Tom and I I've been also working with a bunch of other artists, pop artists, talented people like Tom.

And luckily we've been able to collaborate remotely. We started this song with a remote session where we were both just like. Shooting the shit talking about personal stories and be like, we should write a song about this. I had just gone through a breakup. And so like, yeah, like that's, and it kind of became like this triumphant defiance song beat.

And I think it comes through in the tone. And then, and then. Yeah, Tom linked up with this artist, Stacy and who's who basically a mutual friend of ours, a mutual friend. And so it's the, it's the dream team. 

[00:12:47] Bruce T: Hey John, what is your, what are some of your duties and skills that are required for you to do your job as an assistance?

And how did you get the job and what kind of stuff do you do? [00:13:00] 

[00:13:00] Tom: So I'm not, yeah, right now I'm no longer working as a full-time assistant. 

[00:13:05] Bruce T: Okay, wait a second. So when you were working for an assistant as an assistant, when you were working as an assistant, what kind of stuff were you doing and what kind of skills or required for you to get the gig?

[00:13:17] Tom: So getting the gig was sort of a, was sort of a, a hustler, like trust thing. Like I, I got on the phone with a lot of producers before I came to LA. And so I met Dallas at a dinner party where I was surrounded by. I was surrounded. Motivated individuals and we just hit it off. Right? The biggest skill was that we clicked and personality wise, we got along and I have older brothers.

He kind of seems like an older brother, so I'd been producing for years, but I wasn't actually very skilled. So when I started off with him, I was taking his, his product files. Like if he needed to send out stems for mixed, then I would do that. I would like bounce all the stems, make sure that make sure that they're all immaculate.

And if there's like pops or clicks to [00:14:00] them, clean those up, send them off for mix. And then just being on call, like w I guess another thing that I did to get that. Like, he invited me to his birthday party. I offered to help. And so I had like went to some, like other DJ that he knows. I went to pick up CDJs and brought them to his party and just like stayed late and helped them clean up, just made myself available.

And then even before we had, there was no tent, like we didn't shake hands on it. We didn't have a contract. I dropped out of school and then. Right next to him to make myself too. It'd be like, I'm willing to work for you, even if I'm not, even if you don't want me to, I'm going to, I'm going to be working.

And so that was, that was how I showed and started to build trust with him that I was here and I'm motivated to learn. And then slowly built trust with. Being able to come vocals for him, edit vocals. And that's what I do now is he'll like pass off a project to me and I can do the vocal engineering and all remotely.

Cause we have all the same plugins. So I can just like I'm on his personal I'm on his Dropbox. So we can just work back and forth really easily. [00:15:00] 

[00:15:00] Bruce T: Wow. That's a great answer, man. I think we need to promote you to assistant instructor for the rest of our program. I would be happy to. Yeah, man. That's so awesome right away.

You ha you had those skills already to step up to the plate and do that level of editing to make all the edits perfect. To prep them for mixing, et cetera, et cetera. And so what platform is it logic or pro tools or able to. Using Ableton. 

[00:15:26] Tom: And that was kind of a, I was lucky. Like I had been, I was already very comfortable and able to, and I had already released like a self written self recorded self mixed EAP that objectively wasn't that great.

But just like going through that process, I kind of started to understand what that takes. And so luckily Dallas works in Ableton, so it was just sort of a natural, 

[00:15:47] Bruce T: unnatural thing. Now, when you say you're prepping to send to mixers, does that mean Dallas has not mixing it? You're sending it to like high level mixed engine.

Yeah, depending on the 

[00:15:56] Tom: project, like the very first thing I did for him was sending stems from a Celine Dion [00:16:00] song to serve and going to have. 

[00:16:01] Bruce T: So you're a kid in me. One of the best thing is in the world and probably the best mixer in the world you could argue. Yes. Did you get to wait, did you get to, do you have his email address?

Did you get to talk to or maybe his manager, or how did that work? 

[00:16:17] Tom: I got to interact with them a little bit too much. I accidentally sent it off. One of the ANRs on the project, heard that the first mix didn't have the piano in the outro. 

[00:16:28] Bruce T: And I don't think it happens to the best of us 

[00:16:30] Tom: either I dropped it or it was like, I didn't have, like, I think it was addictive cheese.

And for some reason when I opened up Dallas, Project file. It didn't load that stamp. Like I didn't have that piano or something, so, so I didn't really talk to him, but I did email him back and forth three times 

[00:16:44] Bruce T: for that is amazing. I mean, he's probably one of my favorite mix engineers ever. He's kind of a mysterious dude too, cause he's not.

It looks like . So he is a private guy. He doesn't do a lot of interviews and I've [00:17:00] actually Google searched him. And the Google maps showed me where his house is in Canada. And I think we should all go up there, but that's really, really amazing, John. And then, so wait, John, are you, you're the engineer at sunset?

You're going to be the engineer for it was sunset. 

[00:17:13] Tom: I just worked. I worked totally independently. I work out of my own home studio. 

[00:17:19] Bruce T: But wait a second. Wait a second. Tom is planning to record at sunset, right? Yeah. That's a different thing. That's tomorrow. Tom is, Tom is very, uh, promiscuous. Yes. He has his own agenda.

Look at him. Smile. He looks like such a nice guy, smiling like that, but, okay. So Tom you're actually, you have multiple projects going on. You have the project with John and then you also have something at sunset it's a whole different. 

[00:17:46] Tom: That's 

[00:17:46] Bruce T: my personal thing is the sunset stuff. And this is like a 

[00:17:49] Tom: cooperating.

[00:17:51] Bruce T: All right. All right. Well, this is really awesome. Great. That you've taken the time to hop on. This was like better than we imagined. So does Tom or John have [00:18:00] anything that you want to say? And does anybody else have any questions? Yeah, I guess like this has been a huge extra, if anyone has any questions, I'd love to hear it, but I just want to say, I guess this is it's so important.

Have your collaborations workflow down like to, to, you know, my recording stuff that I was doing with my, our friend, Stacy, you know, fits in a backpack, which is just a laptop interface and a microphone in a case and everything. And it's so important to have some kind of equipment that you can record on the go with, but also have your.

Technology in line with plugins and Dropbox and all this stuff that is important for getting files back and forth to each other, which is totally what we've talked about in this class is Dropbox and plugins and getting on the same page. So can emphasize enough how important that is. Yeah. Tom's Kiki here.

What are you? You're recording tomorrow at sunset and you know, who's, who's tracking, it's an engineer. So it's my personal stuff. My songs that I've written, I have demos made of, and I'm going to be recording. Want me to just put on the desk? Sorry. I just had plugged my computer in, [00:19:00] but it's a recording my personal songs that I have demos of.

And he's a engineer that I met through a funny series of connections where it was like my aunt's coworker's son is this guy I'll. Thank you. And he has a Grammy credit actually on Tanya Tucker. Projects of which one best country album last year. And I had just talked to him in March because I was kind of interested in recording internships and stuff and then kept in touch with him through Instagram.

And then finally, when I was done with my demos, I reached out to him and I said, Hey, I think I'm ready to record. And then he said, great, let's book a time and then got a time booked. And 

[00:19:38] Tom: then that's tomorrow. 

[00:19:39] Bruce T: Awesome. Is it, are you recording vocals or instruments or what are you recording? Vocals guitar. I am getting a session drummer and a friend of mine is playing bass on the record.

And that is about the, yeah, those are the other instruments that are coming in on us. That's fantastic. And if I, if I could ask you, how, how, how was this being 

[00:19:57] Tom: financed by myself? 

[00:19:59] Bruce T: [00:20:00] And then afterwards, I'm going to be putting together like a crowdfunding campaign to kind of help reimburse those costs. But I'm not, if you know, it's just like to get as close to what I'm paying for it as possible.

But I mean, Honestly, not as much as I thought it would be. It's for the day for eight hours of a day, it's like 600 to 700 bucks or something, depending on what we have to do and how fast we work. And then. For the session drummer. I'm not sure exactly either, but I think we're around 400 bucks. I'm hiring a videographer for 25 an hour.

That's going to be about 200 to 300 bucks. So total is going to be about 1300, maybe 1200 bucks or something, which for three songs and for a whole documented experience and for the learning experience, I mean, that's like going to, it's like paying for tuition almost like, you know, you could consider it like that.

So not too bad. I'm definitely able to pay for the investment willing to. That's very cool. That's very cool. A big day then. Yeah. Yeah. So good luck with that. That's fantastic. Thanks for the details that actually helps that. Yeah, thanks Kiki. So right on, I know Tom, [00:21:00] I said, it'd only take like three minutes, you know, three studio minutes.

Right. So I just want to say that John has been awesome meeting you and I look forward to connecting with you more. I think there's some other opportunities there. That's great. And Tom, we're still on board next week with you. We already talked about it earlier today with the Wednesday thing. So there's a lot of, a lot of things to talk about about that.

And then. Have a great session and we'll talk to you later. Thanks, Bruce. Thank you. Right on that's what we're talking about. The magic is in the air. Okay. So then why don't we go back to you Kiki, for sure. But back to our previously scheduled program, what you show your screen. Okay. Yeah, that, that was very cool.

I think it's the kind of thing that sounds like, you know, it was really overlap. Really well with what we're talking about here and how to get projects up and running. But there is a lot of self investment. That's a stuff at the start. Oh, I know what let's go back to the link. I think, I think Al [00:22:00] fixed it.

You did. So the idea is that this Google doc lives inside every. Pro tools, session folder. So the protal session folder becomes kind of a database of contents. And now if you go there and you open it up, oh, I guess. Oh, I'm just gonna say I was going to be, I thought we put something in there. I was pretty sure we started it.

Okay. There we go. Now you haven't seen this right Kiki? No, I haven't. Cool. It's very cool. Because when you were talking about it, it sounded to me like you did not know you did not yet know that Simon Phillips, not only did he play drums on it, he is credited as the assistant engineer. Very cool. So do you know who Simon Phillips is?

No. So Simon Phillips is absolutely one of the best drummers in the world. He is amazing. So for me as a drummer, the multitracks with Simon Phillips, I actually just went out of my gore. It was like, I couldn't believe it. He [00:23:00] is. So right now I'm getting goosebumps. That's too much information. So Simon Phillips played drums on this and actually they're all, I think, did Luther play guitar go back to the credits for a second?

Cause a lot, sometimes they have the Steve. I don't know, but they have Toto to-do's guitar player. Basically what Alan Parsons does for his, these workshops is he hires world-class musicians to do the recording and the performance. So anyway, that's kind of cool. And so that's a good example. I have one.

Now, the reason I'm suggesting to send Jeff three songs is just to give him the option so he can choose something that a, he really resonates with stylistically. So he can be super excited. And also he might have kind of like an idea, an agenda. He might have some ideas of what he wants to share or what he wants to focus on.

And so having, having three. That he can choose [00:24:00] from would be ideal. And it's not that difficult actually. So we can, so you know what Kiki let's have this be the action item for, for this for you and me is let's figure it out. If you can choose three, that's great. If you don't have time, then I can help choose one, two.

I could choose a couple and then let's make a, let's make a deal that we deliver this to Jeff and the best way to do it would be via Dropbox. And I can show you how we, how we can collaborate with Dropbox, so that Kiki you and I can share the files in a very elegant fashion with Jeff. And it's not going to encumber his workflow so that.

Cool. I'll send you the list then of the ones that come up with, and I'll try to make it span a little bit of different genres and different kinds of mixing things. But I did recognize this guy's name, who the keyboard, as he is now known he's. Now the keyboard is for the foo fighters has been there probably for about eight, 10 years.

So these are, these are really pro guys. Yeah. I don't know who Tim [00:25:00] is or anything he's but, but, but the tracks sound fantastic. So there you go. Okay. Thanks, Bruce. All right. And then let's go back to our. So I will do that and I will update my to do list and yeah, so that was last week. And so I didn't know who was on, if anyone wants to go over this week, do we want to do that next, Bruce?

As far as the Guild, let me just add a couple of things. As far as Isabel Bravo goes, she's not here today. She is a student employee, but her productivity, her creative contributions and her work ethic have been just amazing. And one of the things that we've been focusing on recently is working on video production on two levels.

One is just simple. Recording and editing these meetings so that we can share them with students that haven't been able to show up and also creating video content in [00:26:00] general, with the intention of marketing our program. And probably the best way of sharing that with everybody is for me or somebody to make a little video.

I'm not going to sh I'm not going to go there right now. I'm not gonna show. Well, I'm not going to take the time to show you the content and the media that we have been creating. But Isabelle has been really amazing in the video content creation area. And that's kind of in addition to above and beyond the project that she identified on this list, which is her creative music projects.

And I think it's kind of tied into. The report of our general media content creation efforts. And we've made a lot of progress in this area and we're starting to see the opportunity to do some audio only podcast production. To document a lot of these meetings. So we're looking [00:27:00] at breaking off and really getting our podcast production workflow happening.

So part of it is like the, the live streaming is great. And like right now, for example, Phillip is amazing. He showed up a little bit late. Daniel is amazing. He showed up a little bit late, so. If we could play, if we could easily play back the recording of what Phillip missed, he would appreciate it. He would watch it, you know?

And so what we're working on is how to do a fast turn around and that's not easy. So we're kind of going through the archives and we're trying to figure out the fastest way to get things done. And so identifying audio only podcasts as one of the formats is a new. Kind of idea that has recently kind of come into focus.

And let me, let me use this as an opportunity to quickly show descript. I'm going to ask Al [00:28:00] can you just like show a descript window? I can do all the talking if you want. You can see, there we go. Okay. So describe. Is an application. Oh, Al can you share, are you, um, is your audio turned on when you shared your screen?

Okay. So go ahead and stop and reshare. So check it out. It'd be buddy. For those of you that don't know, descript is an amazing application that a will automatically do a transcript of your recording and it works for video too, but we're going to just focus on audio right now and. Not only can you see the transcript, but you can edit the text and it will automatically edit the audio.

So go ahead and play a little bit out. The next two hours is Bruce and Nick Bernstein are just going to talk back and forth, getting caught up and everybody else can watch we're streaming this live internationally. Now, wait a second, wait a second out. I don't really sound like that. So let's say you wanted to [00:29:00] remove re uh, play South Korea, South Korea.

Okay. Now go ahead and edit, remove freaking South Korea. It's just like Microsoft word. You select it. You hit delete, and then you can play it back. And that's, we're streaming this live internationally. The Mexico and oh, look. Yeah. There's Nick Bernstein. Okay. So why is this exciting? Well, for one thing, it's a tool that, oh, you know what you can do, you can remove all the ums in one fell swoop.

So when I first tested this with Kevin Morrison last weekend, between the two of us in 30 minutes, we said 604 times. Now, even though I'm a really fast ProTools editor, it would take me. It would take me longer than five seconds. Now, let me ask you a question anyway. So this is, this is a tool that we're using for editing and Al is like, and the other thing you can do, if you pay a little more money, you can type in your [00:30:00] own words and then you can make bros say anything you want.

That's what I'm trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. You have to pay more money for that out. So, so we have to be careful what we wish nationally. The Mexico. Oh, look, yeah, there's Nicole. I didn't do it. You know what? That's an extra feature in order to do that. I would have to pay more money and then it would analyze my voice and create a Bruce Townley profile.

And then you can send expletives to the president of Foothill college and really get me in big trouble. But anyway, I would deny every minute of it. So anyway, this is really cool. Now let me ask you Stacy, can you say hello? Hello. So Stacy started doing some podcast. Editing last week. And as a matter of fact, we assigned her the Tyler Page, the unfinished symphony of Tyler Page, where Bruce and Tyler Page sat down for a brief little talk and five hours later, you know, w we never even got up.

We have actually, it was over five hours of recording in one [00:31:00] sitting. Right. And so. This was done a couple of years ago. It's never been finished, so I wanted to finish it. So Stacy has been doing it old school and pro tools. And then, but isn't this a really cool, and you've never seen descript before, right?

Stacy? No, you can't. You see that? That could be potentially a cool way to accelerate the editing process. Yeah. Another cool thing about descript is you can bring. People that do not have any experience with a DAW with pro tools or GarageBand or audacity or whatever. And all they need is just moderate intelligence to do like, you know, this is like, you know, seventh grade English editing.

So I'm really excited about that. And I'm super excited about the audio centric world we're living in right now. And I was just listening to the radio the other day. The, the delivery mechanisms and the different products and the media developers for the past few years, I've been so deep into touch [00:32:00] devices and iPhones and really hands-on interface and all that kind of stuff.

And they are hypothesizing that the industry in the world will continue to move away from that because of the coronavirus and therefore the audio, the audio workflow, the audio opportunity has never been greater. So that's my little report, but what we're doing here is where kind of doing a stock split and moving into audio production for four podcasts.

All right. That's my little thing about that. Oh, and then, you know, what, if we have time, Stacy, I'm a, we'll try to finish this up, this little meeting up as quickly as possible. If you want to hang out, we can talk about answering your questions about how to do specific podcasts. Okay, great. Okay. Right on.

Okay, Kiki. Sorry. That was my little, my little actually, let me see here. So like as far as a, as a digital media [00:33:00] production team, we're talking about creating music production. We're talking about creating video productions. And now we're talking about creating audio only podcast productions, and there are three potential destinations.

One would be kind of closed circuit for our currently enrolled students or students who are in our. Group in our community. So that stuff would be password protected. It would be semi private. So we don't have to worry about a copyright infringement or non-disclosure agreements or embarrassing people publicly.

And then. On the other end of the spectrum would be releasing the content publicly. And that could be on YouTube. It could be on Spotify, it could be on apple music, you know? And so we're looking at the different delivery destinations and that kind of has been one of our things that [00:34:00] we've been focusing on is figuring out, like, where is this going?

And what is, what is the. All right. Sorry. We're going to edit all that out by the way. No, that's great. And Hey, a blast from the past, you said you were talking with Kevin Morrison. I just wanted to ask you, are you working with Kevin's? Yeah. So check it out. Oh, Layla, can you open up your microsecond? Hey, so you've been really great.

Attending a lot of these meetings. And I actually have kind of felt a little bit responsible, like, oh, I hope I don't want to waste their time. You know? So you sent a very, a very positive, you said a very positive thing last night. You said you really appreciate these meetings. Can you tell us what you've been experiencing and why you have appreciated these meetings?

Yeah, absolutely. Well, first and foremost, I feel really inspired by seeing everyone else kind of bring their work to the table and being really active members of the team. And then also just kind of sharing little tips and tricks that they've used, obviously the [00:35:00] notes or the multitracks just feeling like there's a sense of community because obviously there's a huge learning curve with this that I've been feeling.

A lot of people have a couple of years under their belts. I just started so. It's a little bit daunting and just to have that support in that community has felt really nice. So what about the, what about the presence of some of our professional industry mentors? Yeah, so I, I actually, every time we have some mentors come in, I actually look them up and kind of see kind of the work that they've done and I've been blown away.

Like I think there was someone. It might've been Ronnie Beck who has worked with bill Withers and bill where there's a someone that obviously, I mean, we all love bellwethers I'm sure, but just some, you know, just really great work that a lot of these speakers have kind of brought to the table. So it's been incredibly inspiring.

And to know that that's kind of [00:36:00] somewhat at our fingertips, that we do have connections and networking that we can do within this group is. Yeah, that's something that has been working out better than I anticipated. I've been reaching out to my friends and mentors and even the guy John that we just met today, he falls into the category of an amazing industry, professional that's out there.

And also wasn't as attitude grades. It wasn't like, God, I don't have time for that. Bruce going to forget about their dream on mofo. He was like, all in, he even said, That, you know, he, you know, his, the way he shared his story, how he had to take a step forward. So yeah, so Kiki yesterday, Kevin Morris. And so actually we have our current students.

And our student body has a really, really wide, really, really wide range. And then we have our kind of graduate students, actually. So Kiki is almost in the [00:37:00] alumni cause he's, he's already taken all the classes until we make some new ones. Right. So Kiki is, you know, cake is, was one of our lesser, uh, graduates and then like Phil.

We just met a few weeks ago and Philip Rose is, you know, he's a quote unquote student, but he is like, when is Philip my mentor? And when is he my stood and you know, only a hairdresser knows for sure it changes. And then we have these industry mentors, like last night we had Ronnie brown. And we had Dale Everingham and we had ND to Guarrera and the cumulative experience of those three people.

And then we'll rock came on light. And so that's really a really great part of our, of our community. So that's, what's been going on. KCI is like every Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, we are having regular regularly scheduled meetings. And so I invited Kevin and he showed up and yeah, he's working on some of his own.

Actually, you know, what, as a case study, if Kevin told us if he, [00:38:00] if he did a little presentation of like, here's what I'm doing, here's what I have planned. And also hear how here is how Bruce has been helping me every step of the way. That'd be amazing. Sorry. That's kind of a long answer. Kiki. I loved working with him when we were students together and we collaborate a little bit and he's got a great, uh, he had a great band back then I think with his, either his girlfriend or his fiance at that point, I don't know if they're still together and they're still making that kind of music, but it's always good to see what people are doing post.

So what would be really cool? Is for us to continue making maybe the easiest way to do it is just on our little, I'll tell you what, let me I'll share my screen. I'm not sure the best way to facilitate collaboration interaction and. Communication in our expanding network, but this is one way we could do it in a perfect world.

We'd have a special app, like the [00:39:00] music. I'm sorry. Yeah, but I would love a way, you know, what would be really cool is if in Columbine, If everybody simply put a link to their favorite social channel, it could either be your website. It could be your Instagram. It could be however, you know, some kind of way, like for example, yeah.

That's what we should do. Just for starters, you know, that's a really kind of crude way of doing it. You have that on a, I think column. Link. Is that what you talking about? Sort of, yeah, sort of, yeah. Yeah. So yes, we started playing around with it, but I'm just saying like, if we I'm, I'm recommending, I'm proposing that we consider deleting column E and just simply making column a, having these be clickable.

So it's all in one place. When in fact I can do that. I mean, we can work on that. I mean, I, I pretty much know that some suggested places for all these, for all these people. Anyway, I'm just thinking [00:40:00] about, I was just thinking like how cool it would be if there was a profile page for all of this, you know, something like that.

What about more column E or somewhere like there, you put down what you're interested in doing? What kind of collaborations? Because I look at this list and I don't know off. What people are interested in you as part of, yeah, that's a good point. So you can see, boom, I want to, I want to do this or I play drums and I want to do this and I want to, ya know, so that's a really great question and I really appreciate the input and the questions from, from you and your guidance and everybody from their own perspective.

So that's something to think about. I'll tell you from my, from my perspective, Actually as the person, you know, toot my own horn, like I'm the guy that actually started this, like reached out to everybody. Like I started it and I'm making it happen. So for me, At the end of the day, it's all about personal relationships, [00:41:00] right?

So like, I'm just starting to get a personal relationship with Layla. And I don't really care what she could have put in column E anything she would say is, I mean, she's really modest and humble and she's not going to toot her own horn. So I've had to kind of like extract it excavate, you know, how amazing she is.

And so everybody, like in shock, what happened to Sean? He was, he was like a real mover and shaker and he. Disappeared. I think what you said is great, but I also think that what you're asking for Kiki could very well be included in the profile page. Yeah. I don't know the answer. And by the way, what is your relationship with Dr.

Teresa Bailey? And I'll tell you that I have recently discovered that she is absolutely amazing. She, she has two PhDs and she wrote a letter of recommendation. For music technology a couple of days ago, and she mentioned my name and just made me blush and she sent it to our Dean. She sent it to our [00:42:00] president.

And my only takeaway was I got her. I want to reach out to Theresa Bailey and ask if she would consider mentoring me. And if she would be my coach, because she is amazing. Talk about administrative. What is your relationship with Dr. Bailey? I think, I think Dr. Bailey is a clinical psychologist, is that right?

Among other things. And I think that we have shared some patients together, clients together, I believe. So. You don't know about Teresa Bailey, the music. I don't know about her, the musician at all. I only know her as a, I think she also worked in a neuro psych clinic of somebody who I know. So I'll use that.

I will, I will use Theresa Bailey as a case study on how we can expand and cultivates our network. So how I can, how Kiki can get to know Teresa Bailey. That's my question. That's my challenge. Yeah. And how we can, [00:43:00] how we can facilitate it, you know, and for me it's like, and the reason I mentioned that, Bruce, I think everyone goes in different ways.

And just for, for me, for example, we're old school. And if I saw something there and says, you know, really, and we had this on previous contact sheets, I know we kept, but it says like, you know, just really briefly. What'd you do and what you're interested in. Boom. Why don't you just for the fun of it, why don't you do that?

Can you type something in? Sure. Where is your, where is Kiki Chang? Oh, you're down here. Your line 30. Yeah. So I put it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So just for the fun of it, if you type type something and type something in call. I would say, would you, what would you put, what would you put on this spreadsheet that might be a little shout out to everybody else that would be in a similar format that you are asking for?

Yeah. I would say something like this. I think that's a good idea. And then, you know, we want to try to something like that. Okay. So then from my standpoint, that [00:44:00] looks a little long. It looks a little messy for a spreadsheet. Now, if we're going to wrap it, I'm not sure. Then it would then the list. I think it's cool.

I think it's great. I'm an, I'm going to make it, I'm going to change the color. Because I can. All right. I think that's cool. I like it. So we'll think about that. And then let's see, is there, does anybody else have anything to either report on what they've been working on or a summary of plans they anticipate to work on?

Hey, Phillip, I want to circle back around on the, that one, that one project with you. I did. I got the files that I think in the right kind of order, but I want to find out if that's, if it's, if it's correct or what needs to be changed and so I can get the rest of them going. So when would be a good time or how can we go about doing that?

All right. We can schedule it so you can reach out to me. So the next action item is you would like to talk to me [00:45:00] and get some feedback on your, on your work. Right? Correct. I'm happy to do that. And also I might, I suggest that Fridays can be a potential window for that so that we could kind of have a time that you know, I'm available.

So the way it's working right now is I'm committing to Wednesday at one. Thursday at seven Friday at 12, which is actually quite a lot. And there's a lot that can be, we can get done. So I know you're a man on the go. So you'd have to, if you could align your schedule on Friday or something like that, then w when you're in front of your computer, we could do it together.

We could like, you know what? We could do a Phillip, we could do it after this meeting. And. So other students could stay watch. No, I know. I know. I'm just saying as a general, you're asking me, Hey Bruce, when, when can you give me some of your time to review my work? And the answer is I'm totally down for that.

And you and I can talk about it. I'm not going to book it right now with you in my calendar, right this [00:46:00] second. But after this meeting later today, I will find a time and you know what mean. I love working with you. I will go out of my way. And you've been right now, the scales of karmic justice and financial justice are clearly tipped in your favor because by the way, everybody, the reason we're having the session next Wednesday.

Would not be happening if it was not for Phillip rose, I can absolutely guarantee you that the recording session at Reynold's circle next Wednesday would absolutely not be happening if it was not for Phillip rose, our attorney. Right. So thank you, Phillip rose. And I can't wait to pay it forward to you in whatever way I possibly can.

It's about Thursdays. Yeah. That's all you added to Thursday. What are those aimed at? Okay. So did you see it? Did you see my explanation? I think I did, but if you could just go over that. Okay. So, so, so basically here's the format. The format is we're carving out the time [00:47:00] to do cool things with our company.

And there's a lot of students now that are working during the daytime they're working right now. They can't come Fridays at 12 o'clock. They can't come, they can not come Wednesdays at one o'clock. And I, I put it out last night as the very first time to try it at seven, it was very successful. I don't know if maybe it should be six.

Maybe it should be six 30. I don't know. But absolutely some people showed up and they were so happy to be there that absolutely could not show up at another time. So that's kind of, that's kind of the answer to your question, Kiki and I was thinking, uh, Having different themes to focus on certain things.

And I was thinking of supporting some of my classes, like focus on mixing and focus on music theory, focused on business. I'm gonna teach focus on pro tools for that matter yesterday, I chose to focus on music theory and I had some ideas of what we might do. Oh, you know what? Oh, I know what I [00:48:00] forgot to share this with you all.

Check this out. I did a, I started doing a deep dive into. Jam Khazan. Now, if you all don't know about jam Kazem, you absolutely should know about it. And I need to do a special little tutorial, but basically there are two general categories. There are production collaboration. For which zoom is cool.

Dropbox is cool. And audio is listened to you is very, very cool for collaboration. Audio movers is great for collaboration, but for live jamming for live performance for doing an ensemble for doing a rehearsal for doing a class for even doing a live performance with musicians from all around the world at different locations.

There are a number of applications that are designed for this. And interestingly enough, they have been in existence for a long time. Like for 15 years, some of these platforms have been available and one of them is gem Kazam, [00:49:00] and there's a number of other ones that I've been researching. And I've been talking to my friends and the thing is like, all of us on this.

Theoretically, if we hopped on gem Kazem we could all jam simultaneously from our remote locations. And of course there's latency, of course, there's a bunch of technical challenges. And Al and I started cutting our teeth. Like I started like three hours before the meeting yesterday. Nively thinking that Al and I could figure it out and I actually brought in.

One of a, a friend of mine who's been using jam cause for a years. And I had to like wave a white flag of surrender, like this ain't going to happen. So we did not get jammed cause am working by yesterday. But jam Kazem is. That's a platform jam. Kazam is a, is a, is a tool that we could use theoretically for live interaction.

And I'm super excited about [00:50:00] that. And so Kiki, if I get that together, I mean, I would say once we do get it together, It's either, it's going to take time, money, and practice. It's a whole nother thing to learn right. Once and those, we can figure out a way of getting students to the promise land, to be able to participate.

Then we can do some amazing stuff in on the Thursday class. Have you ever heard about jam because damn I have not. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. That's very cool. I will be interested in recording that. You know it, you can record it. It does record, it has a recording feature and it records. It will record all participants on separate audio files.

They're just MP3s, you know, but they still sound pretty good. You can import them and mix them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And if you want to, if you want to do more of a higher level collaboration, a file-based collaboration, there are other tools. So yeah, very cool. Very cool. Lots of good stuff out there and that, that is the future, right?[00:51:00] 

We're still in this pandemic for awhile. So that is. What's going to happen is when the pandemic ultimately lifts and we're going to be able to have live events face to face and all that kind of stuff. Whenever that happens, we're still going to be continuing with all of these digital tools, all this stuff that we're doing right now, it's not just an intermediary, you know, thing to do while we're waiting for the pandemic to lift everything we're doing here is going to connect.

Don't you agree, Kiki? I totally agree. This is yeah. Yeah. It's like in, in health tele-health is going to continue. You do. Right. So all these things are, people are realizing that this is great ways to interact and collaborate and yeah. Being in person is still, there's still that human touch is important.

Absolutely. Yeah. But this is going to be, yeah, this is, yeah. Okay. You know, um, a little project, I, I just realized one of my projects that I've [00:52:00] realized is that. Getting good microphones to our participants, to our panelists, to our co-host, to our moderators, to our, to our stellar luminary. VIP's. Is going to improve the quality of our experiences and also the recording acquisition to play it back.

So I'm looking at some portable microphones. I can send people that are affordable and I might propose a budget to Foothill college once we do a proof positive. So for example, Ronnie back, he is amazing. And even though he's talking into a self. Everything he has to say is just, he is a very profound, you know, a teacher.

So I want to get him a decent microphone. We want to have the best audio and the best video and audio is we're an audio centric, you know, group. So having great audio tours that, so, yeah, that's a little initiative. And then, okay. Does anybody else have any comments of their current projects or. [00:53:00] So Daniel, can you say hello?

How you doing today? Hey man. I just wanted to touch in with you and see how how's it going with your job with your career with audio? And if you have anything to share. Oh, right now I've just been on the grind of just working at guitar center right now. Just trying to pay back all my bills. And when I have free time, I'll just go to like a Cameron sound where works and just pull a pulse.

Let me, so I can mix. Cool. And are you involved in this group? And I just like technical right on, right on. Yeah. It's great to see you. Are you, where are you right now? I'm actually cleaning up the mold in my bathroom. Cause my day off is the only time they can do it. Oh, so Friday is your day off Fridays.

And my day off, you're not working at guitar center. Okay. So how's it been? How's it been going at guitar center in general? How is business, how many people are allowed in the store at a given time? So we can have up to 60 people that cause I have a big place. It's the one. [00:54:00] Yeah. Wow. But even that might be a little too much, but then it also includes the employees are there as well and businesses there from time to time.

Sometimes there's a big rush and time. There's not, there's a lot of online orders to get filled and they just drop him off at his cars. But, um, You're talking about the San Jose Santa Clara store, right? Correct. So we could all, we could all go down there sometime, and then we could, we could heckle you and cause problems.

Yes, you can. Anytime. All right, well, can we do a three camera shoot? Can we do a live zoom broadcast? You know what? The straight people come in and film videos. Like what if I came in and started leaving from out of town, can I just take a picture of your storage? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's great. A couple of youth reports that came in, so cool.

Cool. Right on Daniel. I actually have something I wanted to add real [00:55:00] quick. It's Layla here. So I, on discord, I have quite a few friends in the music industry. Like people, DJs, people that have toured and all of that. So I don't know if that would be helpful to bring anyone on for any, you know, additional help or questions.

And then there's also this one discord specifically that's called. We suck at producing. And it's ran by my friend, DJ, a hundred belly. And you know, it, it has some channels which include sound design, mixing, mastering lyrics, vocals, urgent, help music, business production. So I don't know if that would be helpful to anyone here, but there's like thousands of people on this discord.

It's, it's pretty fun. It's pretty useful. So I don't know if even Bruce would want to check that out. That's a really, really great question. And it's something that I've been thinking about a lot recently is. What will it look like about basically expanding our community outside of Foothill college? And matter of fact, we already kind of started doing that.

Cause Andy de [00:56:00] Guajira works at mission college among other places. So Layla I'm totally open to the idea of expanding our community here. Into the, you know, wider. So I think it's great. So figuring out, so, so number one, absolutely. It's totally cool for me, if you want to invite people. And I think it'd be cool if we did get a little kind of, I'm not going to say rules or policies, but just kind of like have a little format of like, if you invite people or whatever, I don't really know.

I'm totally open to it. And also. So number one, yes, inviting the general public or inviting other people to participate in this community. It's awesome. It's only gonna make it better and I totally trust anybody that you would invite is going to be amazing. And then as far as the other thing, you mentioned sharing resources.

I think that's something we want to figure out the best way of doing it and having some shared resources on a webpage or a spreadsheet or whatever. I think that's all. So, you know what, that's a [00:57:00] little project there, Layla. If, if, you know, if might I suggest that everything that you just said is an amazing contribution to our, to our community here.

And the fact that you're kind of coming into this as a newbie. In a sense that just makes you really valuable in that way. I think so. Maybe just think about it and then we can figure out like what step to take. Awesome. Yeah, absolutely. The answer is yes, yes, yes. A thousand times. Yes. Cool, cool, cool. Okay.

Anything else then I motion that a court is a journey.